Curse

Lu Cheng Ying · Aug 26, 2005, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by Fr3sH

Alot of you guys complain about noobs, and saying that my farming monk was soloed. You would not be complanining if you had the mind to make your own solo farming build. You all whine because they shutdown the most common form of solo farming, which was distrubuted all over forums, and people like you mooched off of it. Now when it's been nerfed, you braindead people have no idea what to do. Ever thought of using that head of yours and creating your own solo farm build? I created my own build after just half an hour of skill analyzation that can solo UW, and it doesnt require a monk.

The real noobs are people like you, who have played for quite a while, yet are unable to formulate new builds and come on forums to cry when the build you and every other monk stole from the net is nerfed.

I think you missed my point. My point isn't about whether I can solo UW or elsewhere.

My point is about A.Net/NCSoft's attempt to baby-sit and create a game of utopic state. Who'd play this lame game with nothing is a challenge because you know that once you come up with a good solution, the meddlesome powers that be will just nerf it?

What is preventing the whiners that want to eliminate invincimonk from creating their own monk build? It's just so easy to whine and complain about a situation and expect powers that be to fix it, instead of, getting off your lazy butt and take advantage of the situation.

A.Net/NCSoft needs to exercise restraint and only fix things that absolutely are broken and required fixing. STOP BABYSITTING!

Magus · Aug 26, 2005, 11:52 PM // 23:52

I honestly fail to see how this patch created more problems. The price resets, I can understand, but I actually liked this patch. Thanks A-net.

Reducing the need to solo, I agree with, but this patch has not at all made the problem worse, which is what many people seem to be angry about.

Constance_Necrotik · Aug 27, 2005, 12:08 AM // 00:08

/signed

They are supposed to be adding usefull skills, not removing them or rendering them completely useless.

onilink · Aug 27, 2005, 12:10 AM // 00:10

what is everyone so upset about? Granted,the solo monk is not as good as it was, however, it stills works fine for farming if you can get off your sorry butts and manage your energy.

mikechap · Aug 27, 2005, 12:10 AM // 00:10

/signed

Mavrik · Aug 27, 2005, 12:26 AM // 00:26

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Originally Posted by coleslawdressin

/signed

lazy f*cking jealous whiners get their way again

you can say that again. They always win and wanna know why? We who are content with the way things are, don't complain... We need to whine about the whiners so we're the loudest squeaking wheel.

I've spent/wasted a lot of time trying to make feeble amounts of money... I'd make a solo build but I see it gets nerfed... guess I'll stay with what I got and keep my mouth shut about how I do it.

Blkout · Aug 27, 2005, 01:59 AM // 01:59

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Originally Posted by FatherNurgle

I spent retarded gold on black dye when prices spike near 40k. You expect a return so you pay more for a commodity. They nerfed it and I lost several thousand gold... Time wasted!

I bought and saved runes as prices went up!... Runes nerfed, lost time and gold.

This is before I went solo monk! I spent weeks and many hours to get what I had only to relize that they do not understand supply and demand.

What they want is a price floor and ceiling with a max release from merchants perday. BUT ANET ARE IDOITS!

Then they make soloing retarded longer! Y? Anyone could build a solo monk. I spent hours and weeks getting the gold to buy the runes!!! If you want it you play hard for it! Then it gets nerfed......... More wasted time!

The only thing ANET has done for me is waste my freaking time over and over. After you have several characters who lvl20, one of the only joys in this game is farming and trying to unlock items for PvP. It is not the monks who earn their gold who spend it like retards. It is the ppl who do not work for it and purchase gold off ebay that F-up the economy causing inflation.

They make it worthless to farm in groups and make drops dumb as all hell. They only good drops came when you would solo! Great Freaking LOGIC ANET! Then you nerf the ppl who spent a retard amount of time not exploiting the game, rather playing inventive combinations with retarded achillies heals! INVINCY monks were far from invincible! They could be dropped, but not in close combat and in the right situations. A mesmer or necro would kick the crap out of a 55 monk! I can not believe you think you did a good thing.

I am not gonna continue to play your silly missions and quests over and over and over again! You game suffers from lack of replayability. I replayed the crap to get new skills so I could PvP with whatever i wanted, but that you nerfed farming and now solo builds, I am not wasting any more of my time playing your game! You want us to post, and here is my outrage. I spent so much time playing your game, and I still have things to unlock. You have made it impossible for any ppl other than complete noobs to enjoy the game!

Solo Monks provided a service. You have no idea how cheap I sold some really nice items. I sold ecto to the merchant at 7k, so that stock would be available. Now prices are going to got up and the runes I have are now worthless!

People who agree that is was a good thing refused to change and mimic the strats creative ppl came up with, or did not come up with a way to beat em. There was no perfect build that did not ahve weaknesses. You have only injured your game, by wasting peoples time and investments!

If you felt like you wasted your time, you probably weren't playing the game for the right reasons to begin with. The game is extermely fun when played as it was intended.

Red Sonya · Aug 27, 2005, 02:42 AM // 02:42

Ahhh the "whine" is on the other foot now, how does it feel? hahah When you abuse the system you pay the price and you lose. 99% of you didn't spend any time "figuring out the build" you flippin copied it from a website, didn't do any hard work at all other than rush the monk to all the needed places to get to that solo uw farming area, you aren't fooling anyone. Then you try to disquise your exploitations in the name of "FUN" hahah I'm sure the devs aren't that "stupid" to believe such as that. Many of you got your just deserts, you didn't earn the right to play a 105/55 monk build you copied it and you all know who you are also. Just like most of you copy every other build out there because you are really the "lazy and jealous" ones and will not spend countless hours figuring out a build when copying off someone else is so much easier. I and many others will continue to call for "nerfs" when they are percieved as exploits of the skill system. When soloing becomes the predominant play of the game it no longer is as the game was intended to be played. It's a grouping game, if you want to solo with henchies, that's perfectly fine, but, to be able to solo completely by yourself calls for nerfs and more nerfs in the future.

Sagius Truthbarron · Aug 27, 2005, 03:31 AM // 03:31

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Originally Posted by Ace P900

Father Nurgle YOU`RE SO RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOIGN RIGHT Anet screws it up foor people who enjoy the game much and try to understand lil tricks and stuff you could only find out after playing allot and You could only get that kinda money when u played allot just to get the build up then spend loads of time perfecting it and understanding it then it finally work after so many hours and Gold...Then ANet gets the perfect idea To Rais the minimum enrgy lost on Protectiove bond for axample so some of the farming monks get completly use less GREAT work guys !!! You didnt make the game ANY better just Ruined all the Fun people had in making the build getting themm to lvl 20,, Tring to find bargains on items u ened ,, hard work findeing the skills thta was fun...Then u atleast need to do something for the money it made the game fun making running build to dorknars for money other choose farmers to get some money Great its fun and usefull for other people who made their 9th character and dont weanna do the whole RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing story and just want to get ascended and wnana have good armor... I suggest You guys at Anet Play the Game ur selfs and try to make money ur self .. huh with all the noobs paying money inn real life for ingame cash.. pathetic do something about that :S Thats exploiting the game!!! RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing lvl 1 with Droks armor and 100K to spend on anything he wants thats gay !! Not people who enjoyed the game sofar till some Gay ass four eyes at Anet decided the game would be allot better when the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO it upo for the people who DO have a social life.. Really smart Firts i loved the game But Anet is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing it up more and more...Really play the game ur self abouyt 3 months and see for ur self...Try and expierence the stuff you guys did... Really Anet Sucks Big time RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing Time wasters...

Now... Where did I put the Keystone? It's almost impossible to interpret these hieroglyphics without it.

I never soloed for gold, I never needed gold. I soloed to have some fun and mess around instead of finding a trapper group and sitting around, being lazy all day.

I just soloed to have fun. My idea of fun isn't really cramming into a group with 8 people and wasting time and more time getting in groups only to find out that they were idiotic SMITE RUNS! Grr.

I see no need for gold in this game unless you are a completely popmous person who wants to be "elite". Oooh, look at my boring, black fissure armor! I spent 1 million gold just to get it!

Oooh, look at my +10 energy, max damage, gold Vampiric (5/1) Righteous Maul of Hammer Mastery (20% chance) with 15%+ damage when health is above 50% that I also dyed black!

I've got 50000000000000000000000000000000000000 gold!

What's the point? I can kind of see the weapon, but money in ALL circumstances is just a means to an end, so is clothing and armor. You do not need that armor that gives the same benifits but makes you look like an "Extreme Gamer!!!11".

I don't get why people think they need oodles of money. In this game and in real life. I just don't get it. You don't.

Magus · Aug 27, 2005, 03:34 AM // 03:34

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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron

Now... Where did I put the Keystone? It's almost impossible to interpret these hieroglyphics without it.

I never soloed for gold, I never needed gold. I soloed to have some fun and mess around instead of finding a trapper group and sitting around, being lazy all day.

I just soloed to have fun. My idea of fun isn't really cramming into a group with 8 people and wasting time and more time getting in groups only to find out that they were idiotic SMITE RUNS! Grr.

I see no need for gold in this game unless you are a completely popmous person who wants to be "elite". Oooh, look at my boring, black fissure armor! I spent 1 million gold just to get it!

Oooh, look at my +10 energy, max damage, gold Vampiric (5/1) Righteous Maul of Hammer Mastery (20% chance) with 15%+ damage when health is above 50% that I also dyed black!

I've got 50000000000000000000000000000000000000 gold!

What's the point? I can kind of see the weapon, but money in ALL circumstances is just a means to an end, so is clothing and armor. You do not need that armor that gives the same benifits but makes you look like an "Extreme Gamer!!!11".

I don't get why people think they need oodles of money. In this game and in real life. I just don't get it. You don't.

Quoted for truth.

Psa · Aug 27, 2005, 03:51 AM // 03:51

I didnt read past the OP's post but here to Shut a crybaby up I am
all at him to
Anet nerfed Prot bond for the simple reason of random pug teams they in no way nerfed solo builds for farming a monk can still solo a W/mo can still solo a Mesmer can still aolo a Ele can still solo etc etc etc.

You have no brain as what skills to use so you cant solo after skill changes therefore you are #1 GW idoiot cookie cutter.
you are now here dubbed King broken ass down chocolate chip.

Theos · Aug 27, 2005, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by Psa

I didnt read past the OP's post but here to Shut a crybaby up I am
all at him to
Anet nerfed Prot bond for the simple reason of random pug teams they in no way nerfed solo builds for farming a monk can still solo a W/mo can still solo a Mesmer can still aolo a Ele can still solo etc etc etc.

You have no brain as what skills to use so you cant solo after skill changes therefore you are #1 GW idoiot cookie cutter.
you are now here dubbed King broken ass down chocolate chip.

Quoted for Truth.

Every class can solo UW, it just takes brains to figure it out. No one will post these builds though as the same idiotic ripple effect will occur. Nerf farm? Right... thats why drop rates have been going up recently... makes perfect sense to me. Increase drops to NERF FARMING!!!294144HAX!!!!

Hyper Fire · Aug 27, 2005, 07:07 AM // 07:07

hi peeps

Rhunex · Aug 27, 2005, 07:18 AM // 07:18

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Originally Posted by Theos

Quoted for Truth.

Every class can solo UW, it just takes brains to figure it out. No one will post these builds though as the same idiotic ripple effect will occur. Nerf farm? Right... thats why drop rates have been going up recently... makes perfect sense to me. Increase drops to NERF FARMING!!!294144HAX!!!!

every class can solo UW? What about elementalists who take 200-380 dmg from each aatxe attack? and that's just the beginning, in order to take down one of the burrowers with an elementalist you better be an E/Me or you'll be giving your nukes out too slowly. And if you dont have nukes and go with a bunch of buffs instead you'll find yourself low on dmg output

Asrial · Aug 27, 2005, 10:17 AM // 10:17

1) It's their game, they can do whatever they want to it whether you like it or not.

2) Nothing is forcing you to keep playing.

3) You aren't part of a development team that has tracked Guild Wars since it was first started, so don't act like you know what's best for the game.

4) Why wouldn't the development team cater to the 'noobs'? They ARE the larger piece of the money making pie and this IS a company afterall.

Rayea · Aug 27, 2005, 10:21 AM // 10:21

how come everyone is complaining about just one fix?
ALL classess had something done to them this time, not JUST the monks

sure, most of the fixes were mainly little tweaks compared to the main monk fix, but hey, they did *somehting* about natures renewal and i dont hear the NR spammers screaming for that to be put back?

fac it, guys....you cant do the same thing, day in and day out in this game, without EVOLVING your build....mess about in lower level areas with yer monks till you find a new way to farm. try new combinations and new skills and new armours.
and dont cry so much when they take your best farmer build and bugger it up, cause even if no one whined about it, they would have worked it out in the end....just our grow, out manouvre and out THINK them, and go back to what you were doing with a slightly different build.

and yeah, i think soloing (out on yer own, not with henchies) is not realy sociable, but hey, i KNOW i have days when i just wanna be alone and kill stuff.
why should i go play a game on singel player when i can play a game i love, just alone?

quit trying to FORCE everyone to join up all the time. we all play diferently, and yeah, we will *have* to team up sometimes, specially the UW, but why FORCE everyone. it just leads to unfriendlyness and abuse and wrath.

and a heluva heaping load of morbid, gripeing whineing.

Theos · Aug 27, 2005, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by Rhunex

every class can solo UW? What about elementalists who take 200-380 dmg from each aatxe attack? and that's just the beginning, in order to take down one of the burrowers with an elementalist you better be an E/Me or you'll be giving your nukes out too slowly. And if you dont have nukes and go with a bunch of buffs instead you'll find yourself low on dmg output

If you are that blind to not realize that an ele can effectively still sustain prot bond with ER then... I don't know... you are lost.

Lu Cheng Ying · Aug 27, 2005, 02:41 PM // 14:41

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Originally Posted by Theos

If you are that blind to not realize that an ele can effectively still sustain prot bond with ER then... I don't know... you are lost.

You are incorrect here. I assume you have not tried to solo UW with an Elementalist.

I a proud player of an Elementalist with Fissure armor and I can tell you that even before the change was made, you cannot effectively solo UW with and Elementalist, at least not with Protective Bond as your primary defense. Grasps will easily suck all your energy and under 5s, you'll be click "Return to Outpost".

Now with 3 Energy loss, you cannot do it with an Elementalist at all! You may survive against one AAXE, but not with two or more. (I do know of other methods, but I don't wish to see the hammer drop, again!)

Sometimes, it is so much easier to just invent facts. It is another to prove that the fact, indeed, exists.

But I digress, so...

Lu Cheng Ying · Aug 27, 2005, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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Originally Posted by Rayea

how come everyone is complaining about just one fix?
ALL classess had something done to them this time, not JUST the monks

sure, most of the fixes were mainly little tweaks compared to the main monk fix, but hey, they did *somehting* about natures renewal and i dont hear the NR spammers screaming for that to be put back?

fac it, guys....you cant do the same thing, day in and day out in this game, without EVOLVING your build....mess about in lower level areas with yer monks till you find a new way to farm. try new combinations and new skills and new armours.
and dont cry so much when they take your best farmer build and bugger it up, cause even if no one whined about it, they would have worked it out in the end....just our grow, out manouvre and otut THINK them, and go back to what you were doing with a slightly different build.

and yeah, i think soloing (out on yer own, not with henchies) is not realy sociable, but hey, i KNOW i have days when i just wanna be alone and kill stuff.
why should i go play a game on singel player when i can play a game i love, just alone?

quit trying to FORCE everyone to join up all the time. we all play diferently, and yeah, we will *have* to team up sometimes, specially the UW, but why FORCE everyone. it just leads to unfriendlyness and abuse and wrath.

and a heluva heaping load of morbid, gripeing whineing.

I assume if you see someone getting raped, you'd just turn a blind eye?

Additionally, no one is "forcing" you into anything. This is a public forum. This is also the place that A.Net/NCSoft gets information from as they need them.

My issue with the changes made is far broader than the simple changes, themselves. My issue is with the thinking processes that go into these changes.

All I'm asking A.Net/NCSoft to do is exercise restraint and be provocative.

cat1982 · Aug 27, 2005, 02:51 PM // 14:51

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Originally Posted by Lu Cheng Ying

All I'm asking A.Net/NCSoft to do is exercise restraint and be provocative.

Isnt that a contradiction in terms?

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